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[7.16.19] High Power Electric Outboard: V2
What? |
Outboard
Recovery Part 1 |
Cleaning and Prep | Time for Paint | Brushless Motor Mounting | First Test | Testing Notes | Conclusion | Image Directory |
Attempts at
recovering the outboard |
![]() ![]() This is what the engine is supposed to look like [link] |
The NRL "absolutely giant band saw" got a chance to show off. The entire outboard fit between it's giant jaws and over the course of 42 minutes the engine and outboard were separated. |
The outboard engine was removed. I was really concerned about the hardened shaft between the engine and the outboard, but fortunately tugging and loosening from the propeller end of the outboard really helped things. |
The saw was about 1/8 of an inch from the shaft and cut just in the right spot. Quite excellent! Welcome to the outboard cross section. |
The un-supported engine remnants clonked onto the floor and were heaved into a recycling dumpster. Nothing immediately identifiable was worth anything, the mating spline appeared to be directly welded to the engine assembly. |
Behold a long shaft outboard on a hand truck. Time for some motor plotting. There are some options here, given that this particular outboard was rated for a 26kw engine, there is plenty of room for either high rpm automotive alternators (Buick lacrosse hybrid motor) or even the famed go kart 'alter-moter' used in the miters go kart. plenty of options afoot, but ideally keeping the mass and complexity down would be ideal. 'Debugging at sea' is not advisable. |
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Outboard Shaft wobble | |
As its fairly visible in the video, the shaft that mates the lower end to the engine was quite sad. The live center on the lathe is col-linear with the center axis of the chuck, so any deviations indicate that the device in the chuck is not 'centered'. What i don't quite understand is how this got so bad. Either way this wasn't going to do for any reasonable amount of operation. I managed to find a vendor selling replacement shafts (ebay) and it was impressively better with the new shaft mounted. |
Vibratory washing | |
This was a bit of a silly exercise in cleaning all of the inset parts of the aluminum casting. I used a small 24v dc motor and adding an offset mass to the shaft to make a realtivley low frequency oscillator. This worked surprisingly well, as the solvents in the janitor-bucket had an opportunity to jostled allowing more solvent in deep pocketed areas. Surprisingly given the bucket was on wheels, it seemed to still do quite well at washing and dissolving off paint and primer that was left on the casting. | |
Painting The outboard Part 1:
Respirators and cassette tape |
This is a ventilated welding / paint room, where the rear part of the room has a negative pressure to take care of the fumes. Plastic garbage bags are used to keep the table clean, and make cleanup easy. |
As this epoxy paint was quite toxic and recommended air filtration, fortunately pills hardware had some of these fancy respirator filters in stock. Yowzas, rated for acid gas? OK. |
The epoxy paint claimed to 'set overnight' and get tacky within 3 hours, however, without the 20% thinning agent, it set QUITE QUICKLY and got quite sticky. Otherwise, the outboard painting went well, albeit slightly runny. Most of the parts were fully covered, some required a flip and paint ~12 hrs later. |
![]() If the parts were hanging, getting a better coat would be way less difficult, so, as things go, a makeshift clothesline of parts was born. With the dangling parts, easily re-positionable by glove, everything was covered. The thinned-out goo was quite lubricious and required a bit of paint drip mitigation. Otherwise everything was going swimingily. |
![]() ![]() I taped over (poorly apparently) the model and serial #, which are included here for reference. This does point toward this being a 35HP outboard, at 5500 RPM. Its hard to make out but this indicates that this outboard is an E35ELCSM Evinrude. There are still parts available online [link] |
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An Early test of the Electric Outboard V2 |
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Notes from the first test |
* A better transom mount is required. During the first test, I relied on the existing, small wooden transom mount. It worked splendidly for a small 12v trolling motor, but became an issue whenever the outboard was pushed to more than ~30% power, as the rear of the boat started to become less structural. A new mount that ties together the back of the rowboat would really make a difference. For the test, the torsional forces were mitigated temporairally by adding a ratchet strap to the center seal area, but the amount of force applied but it was still rather tenuous, all things considered. Mechanically reinforcing the back and making attachment points for carrying the forward force into the hull is a must, moving forward. |
* Tilt adjust on the transom
is a good idea The actual 'trim' that the outboard had in-water is actually fairly important as it nominally defines how the watercraft wil perform. After the first test I consulted a few colleagues with more time at sea than myself, as it turns out 'trimming' is its own art to an extent. |
* The height of the prop is also fairly
important. This particular outboard is a 'long shaft' style outboard, which is intended for mounting higher up on a watercraft. As my rowboat is incredibly low to the water, this doesn't work out that wonderfully as the two combined result in a lot of hydro-drag. |
*Hear me out, hydrofoil The results of this first test were curious, mechanically the prop turned, the motor was happy and the electronics stayed under control. The big issue was the outboard being incredibly long, it caused quite a lot of hydro drag being so far underwater. Lets start with a conventional setup, a watercraft that would take a 35hp outboard is generally a bit higher off the water and generally 12-18' long. Lets start with the assumption that this watercrafts transom is 6-8" higher off the water surface than my row boat. Now, lets shift to a 'long body' outboard, which, research suggests is 10" longer than the same outboard model that is not the long-body style. We're now seeing a roughly 16-18" difference in prop height. This is a significant difference in prop height and resulted in a bit of drag. Not all is lost though, 16" is enough to lay in a small hydrofoil under the craft. I'm talking a set of wings to hold the craft out of the water and up in the air. This would significantly reduce the hydro load on the craft while also making proper use of the long body'ed outboard. Its not unheard of to add a hydrofoil to smaller craft, competitive sailing folk do it frequently. A curiosity for another weekend indeed. |
* Maybe
Pontoons is a good intermediate solution to twiddling
with a hydrofoil? If the outboard is more suited for a raied craft, maybe raising the existing row boat out of the water and reducing its footprint is feasible. I imagine some ripstop nylon or vinyl sheet may work quite well for this application, as the fabrication would nominally require a long tube and possibly some ratchet strap points to keep everything connected. |
* The DC link cabling wasn't appropriate As this was a test, and I didn't know where the prismatic battery modules would end up living, so I opted for using a longer dc-link cable. This cable was 8 gauge which, at the current that was being consumed, was rather small. As a result under heavy load the controller would buckle as its DC feed was probably dropping fairly hard. Realistically the battery module ideally lives a short wire run away from the motor controller and uses ~2-4 gauge wiring, and a substantial connector. |
*The controller and cabling need a shroud, the
motor needs a coolant fan While there weren't any significant overheating events, the motor was running quite warm under load. A quick option for providing cooling at the top of the motor is either a better designed impeller, or a proper blower. This could be a simple 3d printed fan attached to the motor shaft, or something off-the-shelf that fits. The existing impeller for the motor is rather mediocre. Finally as this is not a sensor less controller, grabbing a few watts off a motor phase isn't a terribly bad decision, and gets around having to run separate isolated cabling just to run a fan. The VRMS on the motor phase should be, worst case, vbatt, peak to peak, and running that through a rectifier and into a proper blower should dramatically increase the cooling capabilities. Another option is to add a water jacket to the motor but that seems fairly overkill. It may allow running higher than rated motor current, but its unclear how much extra power is reasonable. The controller itself may also benefit from forced air cooling. |
*Motor Temperature and controller temperature![]() The motor has an internal thermistor, but i do not utilize it yet. Having a thermal output reading gives a reasonable indication of motor overloading. The controller at present actually allows for a 'boost' mode, There's a peculiar chart of the boost and economy modes, shown (right). This is a little confusing, there are two modes, "Economy" and "boost", the way this is intended to work is if boost mode is enabled in the controller, selecting it by toggling the BRK_AN(2) line high results in the maximum current being IMAX, when BRK_AN(2) is toggled low, the max current is 60% of IMAX. So, for this to work, the actual max current is set higher than expected, and you operate normally at 60% of that value. Its an interesting setup and could result in a neat 'I need 40% more please' mode. |
*Reverse I havent wired in reverse yet, I'm a bit anxious about including reverse as at full power its an excellent way to capsize the craft. The controller supports 'half speed in reverse' which is actually impresivley useful in this application. I'm still anxious about enabling it, maybe some extra on board flotation is required in the back of the craft. |
*Telemetry It would be great to grab telemetry of DC bus current, Phase current and motor RPM, along with motor temperature. Technically most of this information is sent out the 4 wire TTL uart port of the controller but its not presently documented in the manual. Kelly controls actually sells a blue tooth module that can connect to this along with an APK for android, but I have not yet tried it out / verified it supports data logging. One reason having motor rpm available would be to indicate what band the motor is operating in, is it hovering in the 2k rpm region at full current, or is it approaching 5k rpm? If I'm only hitting half of the target rpm at full current this would be a great indicator that the motor could benefit from a belt reduction, resulting in the motor operating at a higher rpm and transferring more power to the prop. |
* Error Indication Right now the Kelly Controller outputs blink codes to indicate different error modes. At present those led indicators are located in a bit of a precarious location. Either being able to read these over the coms link, or, remot-ing the indicators would be useful for in-field debugging. |
* Waterproof throttle One of the parts that i was a bit precarious about was the simple hall-throttle i had been using for throttle. They are notoriously bad when it comes to moisture. Oddly enough 'waterproof scooter throttle' isnt really an off the shelf item yet. I imagine the throttle out of a zero-electric motorcycle probably actually works in the rain but at the moment the concept of 'the throttle got wet and the boat decided to apply max power' is a bit of an issue. There are a few solutions, conformal coating spray applied tothe hall effect sensor, finding an actual waterproof throttle, or, simply using a set of well tested waterproof pushbuttons to simulate different throttle settings. possibly a sealed multi position switch and a forward pushbutton? It would be neat to actually have a bell call lever for throttle set and some type of dead mans switch to prevent 'runaway boat' syndrome. |
* A shroud for the mechanicals Finally, adding a shroud around the top to clean up the look of the outboard would be great for also hiding the cabling and any exposed rotating parts. It would be pretty excellent to go for some ~60's era spaceman-spiff look, |
* An Emergency Stop The correct wiring for this motor controller uses a contactor to enable / disable the drive, which, for all purposes is a good idea. During this test i wired the battery bus directly to the input for simplicity but having a contactor and a pre-charge is a really good idea going forward. |
* Detecting leakage current One interesting mechanism to limit and detect to the hazards of medium voltages in a watercraft is to having indication for hull to battery leakage. I imagine if there's any voltage present between hull and Batt +, its a good idea to stop and determine why or what is leaking. This may be a DC leakage path, or high frequency AC coupled through to the hull. I hesitate to use a ground fault indicator as, well, this is a DC low voltage application but it may be a good idea to investigate what is available in that realm. I imagine there's 48V DC widgets on swanky yachts, or sail craft, so there may be associated safety hardware. Finally using a large system fuse, with an indicator would be a great last step forward, having a zener-resistor led setup to display 'your fuse is blown' would be quite great. DC circuit breakers at that power level are a bit expensive or huge, most reasonable sized ones end around 50V, at 50A DC. |
Solid part files |
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Concluding Remarks:- Silly watercraft are incredibly fun. There's something excellent about a quiet electric outboard on a small watercraft zipping along. Tackling the hazards and challenges of electric propulsion in a small conductive craft is a fun challenge, but should only be undertaken carefully and with quite a bit of caution. Its a good idea to use safety hardware and a colleague in a chase vehicle when testing out experimental watercraft
- Bring a paddle if your testing an experimental boat.
- Water is incredibly viscous and the amount of energy
required to move a flat bottomed boat is increasingly
impressive. Velocity appears to go by the cube of
energy, which nominally makes sense traveling at 60mph on a
reasonable sized craft requires in excess of 100kw. The only
way to go faster with less is to limit the actual viscous
contact area. For a flat-bottomed boat thats, well not
trivial. Some pontoon craft get around this issue by reducing
their water footprint to only the submerged section of the
pontoons themselves.
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